yeah which since we talked about divine

intervention wish is one more

interesting game B spells is part of

Dean D history but it is also something

you need to word very well and can be a

nightmare for both players and DMS how

do you handle wish so the wish spell in

many ways is the ultimate expression of

wizard leap our wizards going back to

first addition have been the people in

the D&D multiverse who figured out the

code they have figured out the code that

is behind all of reality and they have

deciphered the ways of manipulating that

code which represents their ability once

they get powerful enough to essentially

do anything but it’s risky

in the fifth edition version of wish and

this is this is something that began

developing a couple of additions ago

we began to work in ways for the spell

to work reliably and so in the spell

there is a list of things that it can do

that basically if that’s what you wish

for it’s just going to do it for example

one of the most common things that can

do is which can duplicate the effects of

any other spell so if you go for that as

a wizard really what wish is is wish is

your backdoor into every other classes

right spell list or it’s your backdoor

into the wizard spell list because there

might be a spell on your own classes

list that you haven’t learned yet right

so that’s only for a thimble Oh correct

that first off is one of the ways that

you can use wish reliably because people

often will think oh gosh I’ve got to you

know have with fear and trembling word

my wish you don’t actually you have to

sweat it if you’re just using it to

duplicate a spell like this wish we’ll

just do it now when you are duplicating

the effects of another spell yes it’s a

spell of eighth level or lower

this makes it partly so you can’t have

nested wishes although I’m not sure

really what what the purpose of wishing

to cast wish would be you’re right uh

other than it just like you could like I

don’t know open a hole in the space-time

continuum everyone which does another

wish does another wish like like you

know that poses a sort of metaphysical

question if you if enough wishes cause

enough other wishes what happens yeah

well you’re gonna burn out or they’re

gonna be able to guess maybe maybe maybe

eventually the lady of pain herself will

show up and write hawk for the first

time ever just to tell you to quit it so

we just so we don’t piss her off we’ve

made it so that the wish will only

duplicate a spell of eight level or

lower right you can also use it to you

know create certain objects other things

that there’s this this list of various

things that you can do with the spell

that’s reliable but you also have the

option of just wishing for anything at

all and here’s where you’ve got to be

careful because since this is for

wizards who are basically manipulating

reality itself directly as opposed to

say a cleric praying to their God who

they have a relationship with asking for

divine intervention and there’s a bit of

guidance there right like they know how

the controls work right a cleric is used

to this relationship and the clerics

relationship is is two-sided with the

wizard casting wish it’s one-sided this

is basically the wizard doing something

to reality and reality might not like it

and so reality I get a fussy and it’s

almost like the wizard is coding and

needs to be careful because reality

isn’t necessarily going to interpret the

code of the Wizards wish in the Wizards

favor

now some dams could decide that it’s

actually an entity that is granting the

wish it could be a god it could be a

being like the lady of pain who

even you know beyond God’s or you know

it could be some other nameless force

out there in the multiverse that’s

answering these wishes whoever or

whatever is granting the wishes the

implication in the spell is they’re not

necessarily on the Wizards side right

they’re not all they’re also not trying

to destroy the wizard no like your wish

will happen when way or another yes but

but always it you know there’s been a

long tradition of this spell that

whatever force is granting the wish is

kind of a poop yeah yeah we’re we’re but

you can imagine that if even if let’s

say it’s not an entity where it is as I

was saying earlier just reality itself

you can imagine the substance of reality

being not excited to be stretched in

ways it was not meant to be stretched

right that there is resistance to you

are now trying to make something happen

that none of this around us was

constructed to have happen yet the magic

can do it you know it is it it’s

essentially like almost tapping into the

power that gods have but by a person

who’s not a god by a person who doesn’t

have the experience that the gods have

using such power I mean in a way wizards

are like almost like God babies you know

like I have I figured out how to use

this power right but you know no

training yeah you know I have not been

tutored in this I’ve not had you know a

a a safe laboratory where I can

experiment and you know do no harm it

can be dangerous or mischievous I think

often I think the best outcomes when it

comes to the open-ended wish is not

necessarily to hurt the wizard right but

to make something unexpected and

preferably funny happen and as always if

possible spark new adventure now if

you know if the wizard you know if they

wish for something that causes you know

their limbs to be rearranged well now

the wizard has got to figure out how to

have those limbs put back with a blow I

I did have a player not wish that

someone came back from the dead instead

they wished that that person had never

been hit by another God the act that

killed them and I did err on the side of

mischievousness and decided that instead

so now sky hit hmm and that person was

not dead yep so you got this character

back but this character is now in the

grave yeah and I feel terrible don’t

wanna be like you know obviously that

carried that character who died came

back but like wish is a stressful thing

or it can be but also just a fun thing

yeah I’m also yeah new stories can be

told but yeah again that’s a great

example the one you give of be careful

because if you if you wish sloppily just

for someone to be back who would who is

lost right

that doesn’t mean then something else

won’t be lost in its place brilliant

changing the events of time any any time

you miss with time bad stuff yeah

and that’s just like with divine

intervention for the cleric if the

person casting wish once a reliable

predictable outcome then just use the

spell to duplicate a spell of eight

level or lower because then it will just

do what you want it to do so if you’re a

wizard and you want to raise dead in a

fairly straightforward way just use wish

to cast raise dead don’t get fancy but

if you’re willing to accept the

consequences and you want to bring

somebody back who maybe is who is beyond

the reach of the raise dead spell or

true resurrection okay but you better

word that thing carefully because you

know again maybe they do come back but

someone else is lost or they do come

back and they’re not how you wanted them

to be

right eyes Adeem might even listen very

carefully especially in a wish about

bringing somebody back who is beyond the

reach of normal resurrection magic I

would listen to very carefully how the

person describes that dead or lost being

who’s being come who’s going to come

back to see are they actually referring

to the person are they just weren’t

referring to their physical form are

they referring to the memory of them

what is it they’re actually referring to

and that will inform what I have

actually show up you know if they were

really sloppy and how they worded it you

know you could end up with some kind of

creepy

doppelganger like thing that comes back

you know someone just says oh I miss his

face please bring my husband back to me

well then the wish might result in a

portrait showing up yes yeah so it I I

relish it

if anyone casts wish at my table oh you

do oh yes no cuz I am like oh so I tell

me how exactly are you wording this wish

right because almost always something

then fun is about to happen yeah yeah it

is it’s definitely like the DM has now

stepped into the room kind of situation

yeah I mean in in in a way the the mood

of the wish spell that mischievousness

of the open-ended wish in some ways is

expressing the mood that surrounded the

dungeon master all the way back in first

edition these days the DM is very much

the player’s partner and storytelling

the person who is helping guide a co-op

game and Danny has always been a co-op

game but back in first edition there was

much more mischief assumed in the game

first off players were often assumed in

those early products to sometimes be

messing with each other

like like often often thieves back then

were robbing other members of the group

right people were often trying to trick

each other out of the magic items they

found but then on the other side of the

damn screen the DM was sometimes

expected to not necessarily be an

adversary but also not necessarily your

buddy right yeah and and that sort of

mischievous person behind the curtain

it’s almost like it’s been it’s it has

been captured in game mechanics form in

the wish spell right it does feel very

first edition stuff yep first edition

was punishing yeah not horribly friendly

and you should not get too attached to

your characters oh yeah no the the

lethality was high yeah

so it’s so them pretty sure the kick my

main character aver and who I’ve been

playing since I was 8 is the only

character that survived first division

and then I never want to let him go like

I think I got as far as like 10th and I

thought that was a miracle and then I

grown so attached that I’m like I had to

take him to every edition after that I

mean first edition is the only edition

of the game that I have d-end

in which one of the groups of characters

I was the DM for had so many deaths that

they bought their own cemetery so that

they had a place to just bury the

members of the party who were constantly

getting killed and that was that was

when I diem the original Temple of

Elemental Evil and it felt like every

other session someone was dying that’s

insane

yeah and the one character kept on

surviving yep usually okay I know this

there’s this a graveyard yep there was a

graveyard and you knew there was one

character in the group in particular

that every that all the other characters

ended up hating and so they decided not

to bury them in the graveyard and

instead that character got stuffed under

one of the beds in the end of the

bathroom lunch

was dark first-edition those were

different days level drain yeah yeah

yeah I I’m not gonna lie I like to bring

a little bit of first edition back I am

create a magical item called aprons a

devouring bag where it’s actually a demi

plain of first edition so they have to

so the Wizards know what the evil wizard

there is name for it right you know it’s

very much a child’s interpretation of

first edition and the orcs still look

like pig men mm-hmm you know and undead

still have level dream and survivability

is very low but there’s also that kind

of weird cartoony charm to it as well

yeah it’s a horrifying place like it’s

called bag world I think the players

have called it bag world at this point

so dude do low level wizards in bag

world’s only have like one or two oh yes

yes yes and one spell to cast what spell

yeah yeah until and the wish spell is

very much from that world yes has that

that adversarial whimsy mm-hm I would

say that makes it both of you voted nice

at the same time yeah

you

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