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“WHAT IF” Hasbro gave back the Forgotten Realms to Ed Greenwood?

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was thinking like you know right now if

if if Hasbro just walked up and said I’m

done with this you know slap their hands

together and through the realms back and

said it’s all yours take it we know

anything else to do with that what would

you change from this point in the next

five years okay here’s what I would do I

would convene a gathering of all the

good realm says you guys George Eric boy

you know I’m more there in Evanson I

want Susan Morris people like that

I want Jeff’s input Jeff Crowe um and

I’d say okay on the gaming front let’s

make sure we have the best darn and I

and by the way I think they they I think

they have just done it right now um Dean

the essentials kit starter set box set

for novice gamers to start with okay now

all of you get to do your pet projects

as as low-level mini or low to mid-level

adventures running off from this in

various directions

have fun go go in all in different

directions and then everybody would get

to okay what’s the novel you want to

write what’s the end by that I don’t

mean a one-shot I mean a series what do

you want what do we want to see more of

and then do them you know the amazing

part is is that if you if you took a

thousand realms fans and asked them what

would they want to do next you get a

thousand different answers because of

course there’s so many places in the

realms that need that that push they

need to be written about they need to

have more lore poured into them because

you know even water deep even water deep

you know I’ve said in the past I don’t

want to see another water deep product

but you know what I would see another

one of the product its admit that they

were putting out stories about the

people they’re you know not the stuff of

same old adventures or maybe their kids

because or their grandkids but there’s a

hundred years ago but I’d like to hear

more about those shopkeepers what their

thoughts were after all this happened

you know how the hell the new of how the

new realms heroes were were looked at as

they came pouring into water deep or

Westgate or shadow Dale or anywhere

you know it’s like you know we’ve been

through this we don’t want to go do it

again or hey come on in we want you to

come in here you know there’s so many

things that could be written about that

it to me it just boggles the mind and

and that’s the thing we all want to

spend time in a world that we know isn’t

real that we can have fun in and so

different different things about that

created world appeal to different people

we all win some of us want the endless

fighting some of us month um you know

endless romance in the realms or

whatever and everything in between

so we all have different things that we

want to see more of different head

spaces we want to spend more daily time

in when we’re away from the real world

um so I’m totally okay with the fact

that the roams has to be all things to

all people that’s that’s what’s been

driving it it was it was the land of a

thousand stories a thousand thousand

stories is how I sold it to TSR back in

the day you know this is not the problem

with Dragonlance was that it was telling

one epic tale it was you know doing the

Lord of the Rings thing the quest to

save the world okay what do you do for

an encore okay save it again

yeah let’s flip the world over see the

side we haven’t seen inside the world

again but it is an anti-climax um David

Eddings David and David and Leigh

Eddings did the same thing with the

Bulgaria they painted themselves into a

corner

okay now the publisher wants equals what

do you do oh we saved the world again I

wanted the rooms to be all things to all

people so and last but that what that

means is everybody wants something

different and that’s great

it just means it’ll take us forever to

get around to it but that was that’s the

whole point of having a big team then

the problem becomes and and I’ve learned

this the hard way with trying to think

the agree with group um the the Rome’s

traffic cop keeping people out of each

other’s way as they all try and do

different things with the same

characters so I need to kill the king

Cormier because I need to tell this

great story no this is someone else I

need that kid to stay on the throne you

know but aside from the the Rome’s

traffic cough keeping people from

running into each other

it would be great and that’s the mate

that’s the hard job and the main thing

would be seeing all of you run with the

realms in different directions at once I

I would love to see the realms as a

great collective there were everybody

who would write about everything they

wanted for them till the end of time I

would buy them

oh are you kidding

right and right that would be an

absolute incredible feat to pull off I

know that I would be thrilled I know

that everybody would be thrilled

absolutely so so let me ask is anybody

else have any more questions I’m kind of

fresh out of questions right now

is that a big No oh you caught me off

guard I really would have to – you know

an armored battle wizard I guess okay

this sounds this sounds more like a like

a special than a dinner than a podcast

yeah yeah maybe you guys should have

like a half an hour where you dedicate

to this to this day for for listeners

that really want to delve into the Nitty

Gritty sky could just build a character

really fantastic I’d love to do that

we’ll pick a time then we’ll just Skype

a character together all right you’re

gonna let me roll my my backgrounds I

have this random background generator

which I’m planning to release on the

guild it’s gotta be real real cool and

you’re gonna be role on that right

absolutely

I’m putty in your hands Eric excellent

all right yeah let’s all right I can see

the Harry dwarven courtesan coming right

did you know it has to have a Scottish

accent you have to make sure that you

put so many consonant

in the name that it can only be

pronounced as alright alright let’s keep

these things in mind

hey yeah absolutely every news from

Alejo absolutely and last what we can do

why don’t you guys say something about

the upcoming candlekeep get-together

leaves of the World Tree okay so every

Jed Khan since 2012 we’re not going to

come to 2011 can’t believe zero we’ve

held a seminar at GenCon and called

chemical presence and the goal is to put

together Friends of the Forgotten Realms

with designers authors people who worked

on the realms either professionally

through fiction through the through

adventure writing supplement writing now

through the DMS field we just want a

place for people to come and kind of

talk about the realms especially since

Wizards has reduced its um presence at

GenCon

despite the fact that they use baldwin

beams for their um for their kind of

organized play content there’s no place

for people to come together and kind of

just enjoy the Forgotten Realms as a

setting which is what we hope to do with

Campbell cave and the theme for this

year’s seminars leaves of the World Tree

the the refers to the the third edition

conception of the four enormous

cosmology the world tree cosmology but

really it’s about the various worlds and

realities that are connected to to the

Forgotten Realms and how they they

influence our understanding of the world

and it’s kind of an excuse to talk about

other planes other realities we every

year we put together a collectible pin

and uh leaves are the World Tree sounded

like a good thing that I could turn into

a pin to so we’re working on that right

now we’re hoping everybody that comes to

Gen Con is

and is a realms fan well why you would

be listening to this if you’re not a

real fan I’m not entirely sure but if

you’re a rump fan and you’re coming to

Gen Con the event is held every Saturday

night at 8 p.m.

again it’s Campbell he presents leaves

or the World Tree tickets are still

available and we hope to see you there

Eric do you want to anything that was an

excellent summary at the event we gather

as many realms luminaries as we can

designers writers who have contributed

to the rums over the past years we’re

not entirely sure who all is going to

show up until the event so it’s a fun

little surprise and you can hear some

really great round stories and just

share and your love of the setting that

has inspired us and driven so much of

our gaming and our imagination you know

absolutely as a matter of fact we’re

gonna just just the mages two sages

podcast we have a few gifts we’re gonna

be giving away as well some t-shirts to

people and we may have a little if you

don’t want to come up with some

questions Brian or Eric or even even

Edie dependent to us that we can ask and

give away t-shirts that way we’d like to

do that just to kind of help promote it

promote everything and get people

interested in coming in and then add and

I are going to have a nice little

announcement to make there too as well

about something that we’re planning

hopefully we’ll have a have more

information on that later okay Eric and

Brian before we wrap it up

could you guys throw out your social

media contacts so people can get in

touch yeah my twitter is Eric’s got to

be just my whole name URI que se OTT de

Bie

that’s also where I am on Facebook and

yeah those are the two best places to

find me great appreciate that and Brian

how about you my twitter is brain just

at Brian corty Oh Bri a and cor CIJ ho I

don’t have an Instagram and I’m probably

wouldn’t share with anybody everybody

anyway oh and I don’t have a

professional Facebook my Facebook is

just personal so really Twitter is the

is the place to go for my my more public

needs um if anyone has any questions

about the candlekeep

seminar I can also be reached at Kendall

keep that presence at gmail.com if and

now we actually um a couple of times a

year like two or three times a year

we’ll send out updates and remind people

about what’s going on with the seminar

so if you’re interested in getting more

information when those notices will come

out you can also let me know through

that email address fantastic it was very

hard tonight Brian to keep from asking

you those questions that I had here

because I kept having to skip over them

in my notes so so I look forward to our

to our get together when next month when

we can ask them and get some great

answers which I know they’re gonna be

great I do look forward to that

and and Edie anything new for you coming

up not that you could talk about now now

I know that you you you don’t go far for

for any kind of conventions or get some

get-togethers’ I know I saw sit there

recently that somebody had contacted us

about it’s about a play being put on

based on the realms oh there is a an

Arts Festival in late August every year

in Port Hope in Ontario on the north

shore of Lake Ontario the place where

radium was discovered and developed so

everybody close I mean and that is where

I work daily at a public library and

they have a an arts thing and their

theme this year is dungeons dragons and

role-playing games and I think what they

plan to do for a day is to have a D&D

thing that I narrate or Dungeon Master

on I’m not quite sure on the

the nitty-gritty details and actors up

on a stage will act out what is

happening in the adventure and this is a

sort of it is sort of like an open-air

version of what Gen Con used to be a

game fair so there will be artists

selling fantasy costume jewelry and and

paintings and there will be people who

will paint little fake tattoos on your

kid that looked like a dragon and stuff

like that you know it’ll be a sort of

day festival in the park thing and and I

I think it’s called a critical critical

madness critical critical massive

adventure yes okay yes yes so summer is

coming critical massive adventure it’s

August 17th in Port Hope Ontario yes and

actually they have a they have a

GoFundMe or a funding page as well yeah

that that particular time of year is

crazy for me because I will be at the

gaming garage at the Canadian National

Exhibition for two days I’ll be there

and then it’ll be at Fan Expo in Toronto

and they all overlap but so closer to

home closer to the next say six thirty

days or 45 days is there any place that

you can be going to for a reading for a

live gaming session like you did at the

at one pub in Toronto anything like that

coming up soon well yes as a matter of

fact the people who played in the second

one we had to stop in the middle of the

adventure so they all want to get

together again and they just sent me a a

messenger message in the middle of all

this say oh we can all do this one day

so how about it so that’s going to

happen and what else is saying and I in

in September I will go to phantasm in

Peterborough Ontario these are all

things that I can get to and get back to

my wife

for the evening because that that’s what

it’s affecting me and that is the

terrible thing about Gen Con he is not a

hub so unless I have a private jet and

clearance and I don’t bother with cost

which will make me very unpopular with

the authorities in the United States

there’s no way I can get there spend any

time there and get back inside a day

because I have to take connecting

flights and it just doesn’t work out

right right no that’s okay but coming up

and now you’re not gonna be at the one

in August and the play I’ll be there um

yup for one day yeah okay do you know

what day that’ll be um no I think it’s

that I think it I think it’ll probably

be the Saturday I am guessing here the

the lady is running this they buttonhole

me to ask me questions about D and D a a

local pub is involved and they sit and

ask me questions and write down the

answers and then they get me to commit

to do things so yes I’ll be doing a lot

of things that critical madness but I

don’t quite remember right now what they

all are well that’s uh that’s that’s a

Saturday that they’re doing this I guess

so it’s probably the Saturday I’ll be

there being Dungeon Master there’s also

going to be a live chess game or that

was one of the ideas with everybody in

armor um mm-hmm

but we’ll see Fulks science you mean

like a full-size chess whoa yeah I mean

that was one of the ideas that ideas may

change I could just get a vision of Mel

Brooks everybody jumped the Queen that’s

right and everybody running it in they

tend to be of the female gender and

there will be no jumping the Queen may

be jumping the king yeah no I I think I

think things will be far more socially

acceptable for a family event fantastic

yeah I think that’s when it’s I just but

yes you’re right alright anybody else

have anything else to say or want to

promote you want to give a shout out

anything like done

I don’t have anything you guys have been

great I really enjoyed it I’m looking

forward to the cormier installment and

Eric thanks for doing this really

appreciate it

absolutely thank you for having me no

absolutely and we will set a time up to

roll up my my dwarf in The Wizard and

thank you it was great to hear you guys

again in the Hangout even if just over

the Internet Edie makes a good point

here guys I want you to listen to this

particular part if you see an upcoming

announcement about who we’re having on

and you vibe well with this person

you’ve got some great questions you’ve

got some things that you could spin off

with as well let us know we’ll have you

back for another installment as a guest

on that show as well so don’t think this

is a one shot if you guys want to come

back and be involved in other authors

and other sessions where there’s

absolutely let us know well Cory you

have to realize that Eric has been my

Gen Con for made for god at least I

think it’s eight years running now okay

you guys are sick of each other I get it

you know it’s not it’s not that we’re

sick of each other it’s that we we’ve

had a lot of conversations about the

realms and where we’d like to see it

them go and and our plans if we could

ever get our grubby hands on control of

the realms and that kind of stuff and

right you know really literally talk for

months yeah stuff yeah and I know that

next time when Brian just so you know

during your during your interview when

we get to it next month George will be

here as well as Eric Boyd that’s

wonderful because George and I have

worked on some things behind some of the

some of the behind the scenes stuff for

the realms that uh have kept the I would

put this the roof from coming in right

oh yeah ed will tell you about some of

those things one day yeah yeah we work

at George and I are some of the

background guys and so George and I have

a great work

relationship and Eric certainly can it

has some George’s praises enough I don’t

have to do that but he and I will riff

quite a bit about particular things I

mean and some of the things that made it

into the into the the 1490s

realms and particularly in Cormier grew

out of conversations that George and I

had 10-15 years ago so I’m happy to have

him but me you don’t want Erik and I did

just start talking about stuff because

we’re not

you’ll never get a podcast done we’re

coming up on three hours art

they usually run four and a half oh yeah

this is standard Friday for our podcast

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compared thanks again everybody for

coming on we really do appreciate her

and I both do appreciate you guys coming

in and we should I’m gonna try to get a

t-shirt for you guys too

Thanks so we’re going to have one for

you for the pretty covering it to Gen

Con and have one for you guys too

because you have such a been part of the

film there would be a realm not generous

oh I wouldn’t go nearly that far for me

oh oh I really I would I would I really

was because oh yes but Eric you’re not

go ahead and say no but if you think you

know the love that you have for this

setting is is is so obvious and it shows

in your discussions in your in your

willingness to jump up and defend it and

if an IDI defend everything that’s

happened here that it’s just incredible

and I really appreciate both you guys

for being that way because you know I

have a love of the realms I know curry

does I introduced curry to dragons when

he was how we occurring like 1512 No

first game

eleven years old and on a personal note

the novel’s the storyline in in some

very significant way changed and saved

my life and that’s part of my story I’ll

take that with me forever no that’s true

it did so you see it is important that

you guys continue to do what you’re

doing and you know it’s the it and it

truly it saves people’s lives because it

really does believe it or not and so

yeah so don’t be humble be be grateful

that you’re a part of this you have a

love for it to itself that’s what I have

to say I’m done

thank you for having me yeah no thank

you thank you thank you again Eric

appreciate it so oh oh absolutely any

time I enjoy our time together we’ve

noted her for a long time you too Brian

I remember meeting you in the on the

floor of the in the engine con at the in

the room with all the you know the when

you what he called the vendor’s room and

I think you were working at Sean’s Sean

Reynolds booth or chip I believe so

yep you lo those many years ago I post

many years ago it’s yeah that’s when

they were selling so girlfriend and all

that too I remember those soaps

you know I bought one and I remember

using it and I couldn’t wait to to get

home and I wash myself vigorously so I

get until I got it where I could if the

dice out of it whatever I say good bye

Gracie thank you again but can I Grayson

and then Gracie there you go you’re the

one that did it

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